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hurricane sandy is throwing a curve ball in the obama and romney war room plans. president obama as we mentioned cut campaigning in florida short to return to washington. mitt romney had this to say in iowa before scratching plans for an evening rally in ohio. >> romney: hopefully your thoughts and prayers are join with mine and people across the country as you think about those folks that are in harm's way. >> jennifer: and the romney campaign actually went ahead with that event because doors had already opened. joining with me analysis of how the campaigns are reacting to hurricane sandy, and here inside "the war room" is cheryl. thanks for joining us tonight. >> absolutely. >> jennifer: welcome back. let me start with cheryl. talk about the aura of presidential leadership in the
midst of a crisis. obviously people are saying it is a presidential advantage. is it as simple as that? >> i don't think it is that simple. this is the october surprise that people are wondering when this comes. this is barack obama's katrina moment. for gorge bush hurricane katrina was a significant turning point in undermining his aura as you say with the public because there was a mismatch between what his administration was saying and what people could see on their television sets. so for barack obama he has got to get this right, because otherwise people will see this as political disaster and another point, you know, he has got to make sure that this isn't politicized. >> jennifer: how do you do that when you are one week before an election?
>> sure. i think he has done a good job of reaching out to both republican and democratic governors and mayors. george bush -- his administration provided some help to republican governors that democratic governors didn't get. new orleans wasn't included in the federal state of emergency. >> jennifer: and james do you think, first of all that the decision to halt the campaigns, for example, that is a no-brainer, right? >> yeah absolutely. and i think particularly in the case of obama talking to folks around him, it was clear to me this was not first and foremost a political decision on his part. he just said simply i'm not running out there and raising money and going to pep rallies at the same time that i'm supposed to be overseeing what could compare to katrina. >> jennifer: well, now romney -- you know, cheryl is talking about the president
having reached out to governors of both sides. romney as far as we know only spoke to the republican governors, but he did cancel -- at least canceled some of his campaign appearances. how long does this last? >> well it might be a little bit of a cat and mouse game. you can imagine, particularly if you are romney governor there is a tremendous desire to have him out on the stump particularly in battleground states and at a time when so much free media coverage is being diverted away from the race, quite naturally to sandy, i think it presents a lot of real practical problems for romney who then has to focus or have his troops focus on a ground effort and also on paid media. it is hard to see any which this rebounds to romney's favor,
especially if the president is staying in washington and oversee an effort which may at least in the early goings which has been judged of being fairly effective even by some republicans, if it ends up being more effective than the fema effort in new orleans, then i think romney has some problems. >> jennifer: i think it may be a way that it comes to romney's favor in this sense, if this is only attacking the eastern seaboard, then you are going to see a turn out -- through next week, you would see a turnout effort that is reduced, and then you get to the question of he the president might end up losing -- or this might contribute to him losing the popular vote but winning the electoral vote. does that concern you? >> it does in that he faced
questions of legitimacy in his first term. there were some people who imagined that he was born in some other country and couldn't wrap their heads around it. anything that undermines the legitimacy of his presidency for example with congress who may push back on legislation, that's why it is so important for people to vote. i think the president has an opportunity to distinguish himself from mitt romney in this respect, for one thing his strong support for fema but also in actually coming out for climate change. the majority of americans according to a very recent study, 72% say that global warming should be a priority. >> jennifer: yeah well i -- we're going to talk about that actually in the next block of this show because it is really important. james let me get back quickly to
this notion that you might see early voting suppressed a bit because of these democratic areas. do you think that's -- do you think that that's is the problem. >> well i'm wary to differ with someone like you who has been in the actual election fray than just a journalist like myself. >> jennifer: oh listen to you. come on! [ laughter ] >> i think with respect to david axelrod, who as fretted of de facto suppression of early voting, it makes quite clear that the folks who tend to come out early, tend to vote by mail are those who would generally be on the more partisan side of things, and not the folks who the obama campaign have really got to get out on election day. so i really don't see any marked
decline in getting out early the folks that they need to get out. >> jennifer: all right. i'm writing it down. james says it is not a problem due to hurricane sandy. we're going to hold you to that. thank you both so much for joining me inside "the war room." up next you can set your watch to it republicans will stand by their positions right up until they look ridiculous in doing so. today's example, cutting funds for disaster relief at you know who is coming on to me now? you know the kind of guys that do reverse mortgage commercials? those types are coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say
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>> jennifer: hurricane sandy is slamming new york city for those of you who have friends and family there, you have to watch this closely, 3.8 million people now on the eastern seaboard without power. five fatalities in new york city. this is a tough, tough evening there, and for incite perspective and analysis on how to manage a massive storm we're joined from atlanta, via skype, by former fema deputy chief of staff, mark can give us some incite on what is going on right
now. thank you so much for joining us inside "the war room." >> thank you, governor. >> jennifer: how so far is the president -- mitt romney is a different matter but the president and his administration handling the response to hurricane sandy. >> so far it really looks like a textbook response. the president has done the right thing. he is the commander in chief. it's his responsibility to ensure the federal government has done everything they can do. he is back in d.c. and selected a fema administrator out of florida who is probably one of the best responders that the agency has seen. all of the federal agencies appear to be stepping up. they are in line. as you remember governor there are connections between the local government state government and the sources that are desperately needed.
>> jennifer: can you remind people who are watching who may not be in the disaster area why fema is so important. >> you have heard, governor all disasters are local. and the response is definitely a local event. often fema gets painted with a brood brush that they are the first responder. they are not. as a governor you don't have the ability to mobilize large numbers of forces of both equipment and people to these types of events especially when we have a disaster the magnitude of sandy. without fema those state and local governments would not come close to being able to respond in the way that is expected of the government today. >> jennifer: there are a lot of republicans who want to make sure we balance the budget on a year to year basis.
eric cantor has said any funding to fema should be offset by cuts elsewhere in the federal budget. what is your thought on that? >> personally governor, i don't believe that's actually possible. you need to be sure you're going to have the resources that you need. you want to make sure there will be gas for the humvee or helicopter time to make that rescue, and then you need to know if you can rebuild that school, government building bridge or road and right now when you have to worry about balancing budgets and competing interests in the budget cycle, it is not fair to local officials to know whether that money will be there or not. >> jennifer: a big chunk of fema's response is to natural disasters. do you think this storm could
possibly put to rest some of those climate deniers? >> i don't think you will ever convince some of the deniers, but i think what you will be able to make clear after a bet like this is whatever is causing it, it is happening more often and stronger than it has been in the past. we are about a 100-year flood events every other day it seems like. so for whatever reason it is happening, it is happening much more often today. >> jennifer: i know president obama was tested last year with hurricane irene, hopefully the response is going to compare favorably this time. you are no long we are the agency correct? >> that's correct. >> jennifer: right. so do you watch all of this stuff very carefully. >> absolutely. james lee, being the formal fema director, we work side by side with the state and local
governments helping them prepare and respond to. i have been actively for the last 20 years, so i'm very interested in how this turning out. >> jennifer: i sure appreciate you coming inside "the war room" to share with us a bit of the importance of fema especially on a day and at a time that we know there is some challenges to the fema budget. thanks to mark merit, former fema official. now to my point. mitt romney wants to move disaster relief to the state or private level. he said that at a debate in the primaries, and he said that because he thinks that federal spending on things like disaster relief, he said, it is quote, immoral. so here is what he said at that debate last year. take a listen. >> we cannot afford to do those things without yep nicing the
future for our kids. it is simply immoral in my view. for us to rack up larger and larger debts and pass them on to our kids. >> jennifer: he is speaking specifically about the funding for fema and he called it immoral. you know what is immoral? is treating the health and safety of your fellow citizens as numbers on a spreadsheet. acting as though the invisible hand of the free market is magically going to lift millions of americans out of harm's way, suggesting that the duty to save lives should go to cash-strapped and resource starved states instead of being helped by the federal government or the private company with the lowest bid or bigger donor should get
the morals. crises always unite americans from earthquakes to wizards, to acts of terror and when we're under siege, we respond together. we hope our homes, hearts and wallets to our friends and families and even strangers under the same flag and mitt romney predictably flip flopped on disaster relief today. and in honor of this we have literally put a massive flip flop in our mitts flips corner. so why would mitt romney change his mind so dramatically? because that's the popular position. that's the position of this moment. he swore to something different at a different moment. he will literally go whichever way the wind blows.
who is this man? who not only abandoned his fellow citizens in their time of need but will toss aside his own convictions as soon as they are politically inconvenient this is a guy who is going to do anything to get elected. honestly, how can any american how can anyone have any faith that mitt romney cares at all for your situation? he cares deeply for himself. and for his ambition to become president. much more about romney's morality, or lack thereof, later when i tell you what i think about his latest lie on of all things the auto industry. this guy is unbelievable. up next swing state colorado the president won it going away in
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>> jennifer: you're back inside "the war room." i'm jennifer granholm. just a quick update as this storm rages. there has been two deaths. there is a 13-foot storm surge in manhattan. it is rough going out there right now as we speak. so we're going to turn our attention a little bit away from the storm and towards this crucial swing state of colorado where the real clear politics poll average has president obama and mitt romney tied at 47.8%, tied. joining me from denver, we'll discuss the election in the mile-high city, is the progressive journalist david
sorota. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> jennifer: why is this race such a dead heat this year? >> i think that people are asking questions about the economy. the economy hasn't been so good. mitt romney after the first debate had a huge surge, and a president in a tough economy, getting reelected against a guy who has shape shifted from the primary to the general election it is always going to be a tough battle. i didn't think it would be this close. i thought president obama would still win by four points he still may, but things sure tightened up after the first debate. >> jennifer: libertarian presidential candidate gary johnson is a factor in colorado.
who is he helping and who is he hurting? >> the conversionalism would say that gary johnson would help president obama. but gary johnson should be noted could play a bigger role here because he is the two-term governor of a neighboring state. gary johnson has made a big push for the ballot initiative to legalize marijuana. and he has been saying to democrats -- his come pain has been saying to democrats that president obama has intensified the drug war, if you want to make the statement about the drug war, vote for me. and i think he'll take as many votes from president obama if not mitt romney or more. >> jennifer: let me play you a
click of amendment 64 ad. >> i was a marine for six years. i deployed to iraq twice. i came home and started having symptoms of posttraumatic stress disorder. marijuana helped me from the moment i started using it. it calmed me down my anxiety was almost gone immediately. ♪ >> please vote yes on amendment 64 so other vets don't have to suffer. >> jennifer: david it is a medical marijuana initiative not just legalizing marijuana overall, right? >> no it's medical -- medical marijuana is technically legal here in colorado. president obama has deployed some federal resources to try to crack down on medical marijuana, and we have an initiative right
now that would say that marijuana is legalized, regulated and taxes in the same way alcohol is. >> jennifer: is it going to pass that measure. >> the polls are very very close. i think it has a great shot. and it would be the first state along with washington to do it. >> jennifer: can you tell me how though get out the vote apparatus in colorado is and whether you are confident the president actually will win? >> i think this is the president's advantage. he has a big advantage in getting out the vote particularly the latino vote? colorado. i think that's where the obama campaign is the most focused where we have seen the most ad in denver and the media market overall that that ground game is
so important now. >> jennifer: the people you listen to are they getting a lot of contacts? >> a ton of contacts. i haven't turned in my ballot yet -- >> jennifer: you better not say it on national tv. get out your cell phone right now. we're at the halfway point, folks of this two-hour edition of "the war room." climate change has taken a back seat in this entire election psych. will hurricane sandy put that back on the table? and we'll go to swing state
current tv encourages you to vote on november 6th but just as importantly to take the time to learn about each candidate's stance on the issues that matter to you. to help you make informed decisions, watch current tv's politically direct lineup. only on current tv. vote smart. our democracy depends on an informed electorate. >> jennifer: welcome back into "the war room" for the second hour of our show tonight. hurricane sandy slams into the atlantic seaboard. we'll start measuring the fallout. [♪ theme music ♪]